I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. Thank You so much for this info. 4. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. It is not as intense as the conjunction but very intense, nonetheless. My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant It is not pretty at all. From the outsider's perspective, Eros and the Ascendant person will seem as if they are living the romantic experience only witnessed in films. Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. My Nessus square his Venus About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. It may be off a few minutes and change things. I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. What does this conjunction mean in a synastry? It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. Talk about deep dark sexual desiresTremendous sexual need to control. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. I could not agree more with this. I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. Nessus conj the NN in synastry would make me RUN and fast lol. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. . One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. 8. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. Well, I have been thinking about the situation. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. To me, this is always a fundamental place to start. This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. What I wanted to know first was what past lives we had together. These aspects or connections have a "mean't to be" feel to them, it's a potent place to look at in synastry. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. Moon/Pluto in a trine is very powerful, too. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. Thank you Ariel! First of all Lilith is for . Thanks for the push in this direction, my Friend. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. Thank you for this information! Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. I am so intrigued!!! Unlike Juno/Saturn aspects, Juno in aspect with the South Node does not necessarily indicate that marriage in this life will be a force. My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. Is this a synastry, Ariel? In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. Is there a good part to Nessus/deja conjunct? His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. 9. I found your site a short time ago and learned a lot, very descriptive in the analysis, I love it! There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! It is not good to have a base level view on what will happen with one isolated aspect. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. This question would need me to see the whole chart because what I do is put it all together and come out with a practical answer. I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? That is why it is so powerful. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. Yes, that is a good way to put it. I get into this discussion a lot with people. I am prone to being attacked in this way. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. Thank you, Amiann. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. (double-whammy..) You have such a sweet spirit. Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. In fact, it is the opposite. I have more compassion for myself, and I feel validated some ~ not to identify more as a victim. You do not have to do their chart. They have a very imaginative sex life. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. Do you have any advice for me? This is not dark sexual, per se. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life. . . You example above is only if a woman has Dejanira conjunct a mans ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Any feedback on the roles being reversed? Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. Ami, hello. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. Or can both apply? Thanks! I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. What do you think? Uranus/Mars in synastry can be kinky. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. Could it be a past life meaning? The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. Your email address will not be published. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! What about this aspects? Eros is also prominent in their synastry. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. I agree with Sydney. Ami is an insightful astrology. To me, it always is. This isn't always a bad thing, however. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! This brings out their dark side. Im not saying it is impossible for the aspects to play put for people, because a lot of times, you do see it come into play, but really only when ones own natal supports that factor with aspects between actual planets. . Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. The first would be Nessus. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. Hi Amiann 1) Planetary house overlays (1, 5, 7, 8, 9 = most important) 2) Planetary aspects. The fear can totally destroy someone over something that they read as if its fact. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! Currently you have JavaScript disabled. You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . Thanks for your help Amiann. The chart shows the TRUTH. A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. What about a mars 8th house overlay also trining pluto? In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. Im trying really, really hard not to jump to conclusions, so any help or advice you could give would be very much appreciated. In this case Nessuus is retro in conjunction with the North node. Eros & Psyche in. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) Your feelings are not fact. I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences.