Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 'F. This gun can be found with Especial on the right side of the slide as well as one with no marking on the right or only 9mm Automatic. Feb 06, 2013 Pilot. Offered with black or pearl grips in chrome or blue according to the catalog but this one has white grips. d'Armes LePage Lige, Belgium No. I ;ur-po: rwp*.T5p. This is the early Llama legend and then changed to the ones below. Whatever you buy from them, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. Looking mostly for the model IV, VII, VIand the Ruby 45 even as a parts gun but will consider anything. 316 7.65 mm. X.-This pistol, in 7.65 mm. This was the most original and sophisticated Llama ever designed, incorporating such unique features as ball bearings for the hammer pivot, separate draw bars for the single and double action sears, a deeply undercut trigger guard to allow high hand positioning for recoil control, and "buttressed" rifling, which used a 2-stage "step-down" from the lands to the grooves, for less bullet deformation and a better gas seal Most of these features have never been found all together in any other single design, and provide this pistol with an extremely smooth and reliable action. After going They were of high quality and have been sold around the world. FREE delivery Sat, Mar 11 +8 colors/patterns. The winning bid was over $900. Both are identical to the Llama Mod. If this was a coin, it would no doubt raise its value, but I doubt if it did that for this pistol. During the Spanish Civil war all of the gun makers were within the Republican (Basque) held territory, even Astra who was actually on the side of the Nationalist or on the side with the Catholic Church actually. After the Spanish civil war theGABILONDO companymoved its facilities to Vitoria, Spain where they continued to produced handguns under the Llama trade name. |I|'|II JI|i|IH|'ll|'l'ji PPI'I'PI'I Jl|'|ll'|'l'l'l'ji|l|l I I|' ' . Time will tell. Ever wondered how it is done to perfection every time? Mod. It is marked .38 caliber rather than 9 mm. Browning caliber, original blowback style, dating from about 193'31934, first issued without model designation, with factory catalog designation No. IV and is, therefore, the original Llama pistol, manufacture of which dates from 1932. Hesston 4790 baler specs. This gun does not have the grip safety and has a serial number lower than any Bufalo I have ever seen making me wonder if it was actually a forerunner to the Bufalo instead of being made afterward. 1111 > 'i^lll >', fni'Tf-' ' , ' .f1.!!.!,. The Spanish government set up a proof house in Eibar starting in 1923. Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers this appears to be the export version of Mod. Whether it is a X or XA it is a beautiful little piece and a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. Auction: 14505864 LSB#: 170816OQ08 Title: , C&R 9mm Largo (.38 ACP) Make: Llama Gabilondo y Cia S.A. Mod. Regards, Cal44. It is still in production. i , No. Mod. The cost is $175.00 for custom serial numbers on Guardian pistols and $150 for Mini-Revolvers. d'Armes de Guerre de Haute Prcision Lige, Belgium No. This indicates that the pistol was manufactured in 1984. After the close of World War II certain models were dropped, grip safeties were added to the remaining models, and a .22 caliber pistol was introduced. If you intend to buy something from the companies advertising above, or near the bottom of our pages, please use their banners in our sites. Answered by a verified Firearms Expert. so on. III. V.-Made in 9 mm. The cost is prohibitive in the best cases, when a state or local jurisdiction maintains a registry. Mod. Your search for Llama Serial Number will produce better results if you simplify your keywords and exclude words like: serial, key, number, code, activation, keygen, crack, etc. During this period they made a Max I LF with the old 1980's frame and a slide of the Max typeand called it the El Militar. Here are a couple pics of it, I can post serial numbers if they will help. The second sub-variant has a 4.25 inch barrel (108 mm) with the front sight set back about 5/16 inch (8 mm) from the muzzle. Your help is appreciated. On that pistol it will probably be a letter followed by a number, with an * between. I do not know if it is because of the double stamping that has occurred with these marks or some other factor, but there is no letter P inside of this mark on the above pistol. Thank you. The flaming bomb proof indicated that a semi-automatic pistol was fired and had passed two proof loads, each of which was 30 percent more then the normal maximum operating pressure. A LLAMA 32ACP pistol currently has too little sold data to calculate an average price. 1911. Locked Breech as you can see in the photo below, 161mm overall length, 94mm barrel and 8 round magazine. My wife has a Llama .380 she inherited from her step-father. Llama XI A - 9mm P - full size gun with 5" barrel . From what I found it looks to be a Llama III. This gun is also a model V made in 9mm P. This gun was made in 1945 and is shown with different grips. Check the Serial Number data field in the BIOS Main menu. Largo (Bergmann) caliber. Unless one of the Llamas has this mark or you have the bring back papers you cannot tell for sure if it was used in Germany during the war or not. Enter the serial number, without spaces or dashes, to search the database. By your date code I bet you have the III-A which is not marked anywhere on the slide. III, but this has not been confirmed. If you intend to buy something from Brownells, please use their banners above. Llama 38 Special Serial Number Lookup Llama 38 Serial Number: RRR1941018.. A278), order number (i.e. This book contains well over 50 pages of detailed information and illustrations all about the art of knife throwing. It is a full-size reproduction of the Colt-Browning recoil-operated pistol Mod. Mod. ' r nn< . Another company did import them but they are not marked in any way. 'l''',!' Big Sean Finally Famous Deluxe Edition Zip Sharebeast. : r 11 r^' 1! 1911. The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. Uli l[! The used value of a LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol has fallen $0.00 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $374.18 . I think the deep relief engraving was discontinued at this time because it does not show up in my catalog. LlamaPolice Model- Manufacture 1933 date code F, blow back operated, cal 7.65 or .380, 7 round mag, barrel 3 ". Eibar, Spain. Payment should come from the FFL Firearms Dealer . Eibar, Spain No. $ 399.00 For sale is a Llama Especial semi-automatic pistol in .380 ACP. Mod. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. (barrel has a barrel link like a 1911). The serial number is C23709. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique Nationale. When first issued no model number was assigned but the factory catalog designation was No. Short version of the Mod. i i ' . After WW II the serial # reads with barrel to the left (except for serial numbers on the fore strap thru 1957). 29681, No. Three vent first series starting in 1955and being made thru 1969. The Llama M82 is hammer fired, double action pistol. At some point after this some guns in need of work were sent to Astra to be refinished, later bought and sold by Interarms which was a CIA cover company. Barrel length is 5 1/2" This gun has an internal extractor like the Colt. These copies of the 1911 style pistols were manufacturedwith great quality and care and have been sold around the world. I'm trying to identify it. It uses a short recoiling barrel with tilting block, barrel-to-slide locking, much like the Walther P38 or Beretta 92. Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. No one seems to know anything. iT : ! 528. The year code may appear on the frame above the trigger or under the grip panels. mi 11 i*Tl niilin?liiii luTT 1111111 < ttif m?' This model was produced until about 1954. 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 45680 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46306 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46883 Model II - 380 ACP - 1943 - 70989 Model I - 32 ACP - 1943 - 72994 (German GECO marked) Model II - 380 ACP - 1944 - 78290 Model I - 32 ACP - 1944 - 84482 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1944 - 89123 Model IIIA - 380 ACP - (don't have year handy) - 739813. By the end of the war it is thought that Gabilondo alone produced from 250,000 to 300,000 pistols. until they exhausted the alphabet, then they started with "A*2" and 99. Its odd but I suspect they used an in stockframe and slide that were sitting on shelves in an effort to save a few dollars. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. All proofing of handguns in Spain still occurs in the city of Eibar at the Banco oficial de Pruebas(official proofhouse) and the same symbol is still applied to this very day. The serial number is 1471xx which would put it around 2000 after yours. -. I am thinking that Llama had a slide or more that were over runs and they simply used them on later guns, but have no way of knowing for sure. Elgoibar, Spain No. I except for magazine capacity. IX-A.-This is the .45 ACP caliber, to which a grip safety was added immediately following World War II. Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. There are no Llama pistols designated as Models XII, XIII, and XIV as these designations have been reserved for and are used on the Llama revolvers. 1911. Llama IXA was produced as a replacement for the IX .45cal - large base mag. I lost a gunbroker auction on a similarly marked.32 or.380, a couple months ago, but can not find it in the advanced search so it might have been longer. Thanks again for the information! Any ideas? This is an importers stamp that is now required to be placed on firearms that have entered the U.S. After the late 1980's. Answer (1 of 37): Without law enforcement being involved you really cannot trace a firearm in the United States. Present day handguns will show a slide marking with either LLAMA CAL. Ameba Ownd - . I suppose in an effort to reduce costs they decided not to use the locked breech system found on earlier guns. It could also be purchased with a 13 round magazine. Work on a new design began in 1931 and culminated in 1932 with a Spanish patent issued on April 12th of that year. Grips Compatible with Llama XV 22RF XA IIIA 32 380 ACP (Reproduction Work) Made & Shipped from Thailand. It is fed with a detachable 6 round box magazine that is of the same size and dimensions as the Colt 1911 magazine. 226 Williams Ln. Mod. I Gabilondo y Cia. Owners of these rifles should contact Daisy at 1-800-354-8841 for information on returning their gun (s). Whatever you buy from them, using those banners, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. Piotti. X, with the addition of a grip safety, which was added immediately following World War II. In the picture above, the square is actually the letter 'D' but in this case, the edge of the die has left an impression on the pistols frame and the stamp looks like a square. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. The letter for the date code with the asteriskon top is still in use to this very day. Although Spain began proof marking shotguns in 1910, it was not until July 18, 1923, nearly 5 years after the end of the first world war that Spain's proofing system for its pistols came into use. Browning filed a law suit against Beristain for patent infringement but lost the suit in 1925 . However, many police departments do not offer this service. Little Tom Wiener Waffenfabrik Vienna, Austria No. 37963, ' I tI M 111 m 111 nI y 11 I' I' I' I' I' I J'lM'li[inin^ni|ii, > . This is in 38 Super and is only the second I have seen. There was also a version in 7.65 parabellum made for export to Germany and possibly other countries, but no indication it was ever offered in the USA. 'F. p | II 111 ' I . Exploded view of the IIIA, VIII, .IXA, XIA. I, to which no model number was originally assigned. My wife has a Llama .380 she inherited from her step-father. The rifle will be repaired and returned at no charge to the owners. This gun is Geco marked above the trigger. Enter the words "gun serial number" in the search bar, followed by the portion of the number before the first hyphen. 330 7.65 mm. t i^ 11n t,.i 11, i 7i i 't rwi . X-A.-This is identical to Mod. The gun shown below has the early slide markings on the left side and was made just before my M&P model VII which has the later slide markings. This pistol is still made. To this weapon was given the trade name Llama" which is the name for currently made Gabilondo pistols. 111111111 y M i 111' I' 111 I y I 11' I' 11 I' I' I 'j I I M ' 111' I I' I y ' I' I' I')1 I I' I' I'l'J' ' I'l'l'l 1 I'l'j'l'l'l * I *' *' 'J' IM' 1 ' I' ' 'J ' 1 *1, No. For a revolver, where reloading takes place by means of the turning of a cylinder, an over pressure load is used. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The demand of new LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. Hopefully I'm in the right forum. I am especially interested in the model IX .45 cal and VII 9mm P. All are early guns produced before 1955. It could be in a collection someplace. I have records of this gun being made as early as 1932 and as late as 1944. A forum community dedicated to handgun owners and enthusiasts. Parabellum caliber was produced. All of these stampings on this pistol have been double struck. Llama model VII Military and Police - 5 1/16" barrel -9mm Largo and 38 acp. Thanks for the link. This gun has no proof marks whatsoever. according to the serial number. But unless the owner speaks up and wants to sell, then you'll never know. ,.,.. It was made prior to World War II only. In the link provided, there is an example shown for '6 78' with a guess of 1978, though it's not certain. 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. The guns were actually purchased by Les Ouvriers Reunies and from there went to the French gvernment. Your search for Llama Serial Number will produce better results if you simplify your keywords and exclude words like: serial, key, number, code, activation, keygen, crack, etc. Post War serial numbers are all offset. Browning caliber, original blowback style, dating from about 193'31934, first issued without model designation, with factory catalog designation No. Llama Pistol Identification - Firearms identification Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. The serial number is listed after the word "Serial Number," "SSN," "S/N," or "SN.". Hungarian 'Pistole Mod. The date proof will be a letter or possibly a letter and a number with an * above it. I j. 'Izarra' Pistola Automtica Bonifacio Echeverra Eibar, Spain No. Mod. I 111 IJ . III, but this has not been confirmed. Mod. Gavage Automatic Pistol Armand Gavage Fab. Very similar to the Astra Victoria from earlier years, While this gun is nothing more than an Ultra Plus it is marked Danton War Model. The markings in the picture on the left are as follows,GABILONDO Y CIA. Normally they have soft checkered rubber grips that do not last. Also used the later style magazine. Today Stoeger Industries has offices in several states with their corporate office being located at 17603 Indian Head Hwy, Accokeek, MD 20607 and their telephone number is 800-264-4962. The 1914 Ruby in 7.65 - 9 shot with checkered wood grips as made for the French in WWI. At the beginning of WWI Gabilondo presented the gun to France for trials and it was accepted in 1915 with orders for 10,000 a month. Browning Short caliber, heavier than Mod. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products. To get into BIOS menu, press F2 button repeatedly after powering up until BIOS menu shows up. Ask it to dinner and a movie? XV.-This is a .22 caliber (Long Rifle) pistol which follows the same general design as the other recent Llama models. Introduced in 1996. This is a Ruby 7 shot 7.65 mm made in 1928 with a B date code. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. X-A.-This is identical to Mod. This pistol is still in production. 3.50" barrel. ''I I'l'I'MJ [11 ' | 1 ' 11 M 11 ' | ' I ' 11 1 H. TmTfi'iiiiilit'li i ! It was manufactured from about 1936 to 1954. US&S's serial number range was 1041405 to 1096404, with my grandfather's numbered 10622xx (I'm . This is then followed by two more rounds fired at normal pressure levels to determine whether the self loading mechanism is still functioning properly, if it was, then the stamp was applied to the firearm. t i'^' 11 till t l^lll 11 ll nTi f r 11 In iTl 111! 2.5 2.5 out of 5 stars (6) $47.99 $ 47. Unless one of the Llamas has this mark or you have the bring back papers you cannot tell for sure if it was used in Germany during the war or not. On the opposite side of the slide it reads: LLAMA- GABILONDO Y CIA VITORIA (ESPANA) Shortly after the production of this first model, a blowback style based upon the external shape of the Colt-Browning was introduced. ACP only. Offered with black or pearl grips in chrome or blue. This is a must for all martial artists and anyone wanting to learn the knife throwing techniques of the ninja.span, 1111111 111111 r 11111111111111 n, 1111 11111 11 n 11 h 1111111111 r< 1111111, XjbSuiih 'jsodupug jbXSJOAXSOJ poj doJS, JSUIUIOIJ uiui g9' PIC 'ON, ^ f J1jjt'l1 'lEJ^I^j lt. jl II > 11 I^i I Ullllji^ I tlimjUl i|l IHI^ni^Hn^m m I^i IH mi^i nj i : 11, 'l^p111 Mii|><| ' J^^j*1 '1 *|1111IJ!^1 *i '1 '1 1JI * *i mn11*11 Ji j^i tiji 11 ** jj, 1,111111 > I' 111111 ' 111111 fi 111111111111111' 111111111, i, i, I*, 11 il' i ill III lili il il' lilil lilil I iHlilllllllil ilil'llllhll III i l'i I ,h I i i- i < i ' i ' i i i ' i ' i i ' i i ^ . VII, but with the addition of a grip safety. Given this, I could assume my Llama was made in 1971. t 11 l?T it:t*tttl t ftfluc^ f I iff 1 ff fl cTTt v > 1, (TTr1! It was a well made gun with fair tolerances, so parts were interchangeable within its own brand. Manufactured Under Item:14505864 Gabilondo & Cia Llama Model VII Modelo Extra 9mm Largo, Blue 5 " SA Semi-Automatic Pistol, MFD 1932-44 C&R For Sale at GunAuction.com Mod. The Arms Collectors website offers a lookup for Marlin serial numbers. This gun was also made with a raised area where the rib is that has lines to deflect glare. They had the straight serrations of the earlier series. 111111 MI 11111 ml 1111 ft ml 111111 m 1111111 m' < J, !i*tiTtittiii7iViti'fiifi!t*iTftitiii>ifiiii9aitilifftlfit>fiifil>i!laiitItf2tliciiffiifiiti!iiiiliiiiVtiitl, No. This was the original Llama pistol, dating from 1931-32, in 9 mm. VII (or IV) style are known to have been made in the 7.63 Mauser caliber, expressly for the German trade, and it is possible that the designation of Mod. Remington Firearms This recall applies only to Daisy Legacy semiautomatic .22 caliber rifles Models 2203 and 2213, all with the serial number beginning with the letters AC. This gun was made in 6.35mm, 7.65mm and .380 acp. Llama 380 Serial Number History Llama actually started manufacturing these handguns as the Model IX back in 1936, this Llama IX-A was manufactured in 1984. The serial number on this gun is 30800 so it was made mid 1930. Your help is appreciated. Earlier issues had a lanyard ring at bottom of left side of the grip frame, but this ring was omitted in later issues and the grip pieces were redesigned. I . Mod. I need some help I just bought a llama yes a llama. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products. These fall in the serial number range between 200 and 300. 1111! Jlllll;|!||'|!llii||.|,l||M[|in!Hltlltlllll, No. 529. Llama Extra with factory target sights. On the right side of the frame, Union Switch & Signal inserted double spaces in "M 1911 A1" whereas Colt rolled it out all crammed together ("M1911A1") and Remington-Rand, Ithaca, and Singer inserted single spaces ("M 1911 A1"). Starting at the left and reading towards the right, the first symbol is a tad hard to make out in the photograph but it is a knights helmet and shield with the X inside. XV.-This is a .22 caliber (Long Rifle) pistol which follows the same general design as the other recent Llama models. There is a hand drawn picture of the Tauler version in Gene Gangarosa's book on Spanish Handguns on page 180. Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers this appears to be the export version of Mod. This is all based on my research online but I'm certainly not 100%. | | 11111 tj 111111 1111111 ij 11111111111111. As a result of this only Astra continued to make guns after that territory was taken over by the Nationalists. Check the sticker label on the warranty card. Early versions of this gun were marked as Military and Police on the right side with 9mm Bergman 38 Superon the front of the slide. Officers were to furnish their own guns so many Llamas were sold, although I have only seen one large caliber gun with the Geco mark. d'Armes de Guerre de Grande Precision Beistegui Hermanos, Eibar, Spain No. It is marked .38 caliber rather than 9 mm. Model: "LLAMA" ESPECIAL Serial Number: 277547 Caliber Info: 32 ACP Condition: VERY GOOD Metal Condition: VERY GOOD Wood Condition: EXCELLENT Bore Condition: EXCELLENT Barrel Type: 3 3/4 Action: SEMI AUTO Finish: BLUE Sights: OPEN Item Location: RI See all listings by RUDIM6 Print this listing Custom 4S Grips and trigger and a full smoothing of the internal parts. The pistols that were built after 1936 will have slide markings that readLLAMA GABILONDO Y CIA. Now under the left grip I found an F followed the numbers 234 which also happens to be stamped on the barrel trigger and back strap. *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. Llama Firearms Serial Number Lookup Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N.